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A sweeping story captivates players from the start! An epic story in an authentic world hand-crafted with an eye for detail and populated by real, plausible characters. A Mysterious Volcanic Island The heavy tremors on the island bode ill for its inhabitants. Ancient temples have risen from the ground recently, bizarre creatures are terrorising the area. Fear and terror is spreading among the population. The End of All Hope? A group of powerful men who call themselves The Inquisitors have taken it upon them-selves to put an end to these events. They send an exhibition to this remote island, but a storm takes hold of the ship and destroys it at sea. A Hero Will Come As if by a miracle, the player survives the shipwreck and is stranded on the volcanic island alone. He finds himself amidst a chaos of rebellion, tyranny and mystic rituals. He must now decide to which side the pendulum of fate will swing. more info
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Thank you, Pirhana Bytes!!!
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
First of all, re: 5 stars, no the game is not “perfect.” I wouldn’t call it a 10/10, but it’s closer to a 9/10 than an 8/10 IMO, so there you go. And of course, this is highly subjective. As has been noted in other reviews, this game is A LOT like Gothic 3, which I really loved. Considering the number of people who hated G3, your mileage may vary. (Incidentally, I know most Gothic fans consider 1 and 2 the classics, but I just couldn’t get past the UI issues with those games. And oddly enough, I played through G3 – well most of it, long game – without encountering any significant bugs.)
Getting back to Risen, this is essentially a reduction of Gothic 3. Shorter and sweeter, with a smaller map, a more concise and theatrical (though certainly less so than the Peter Jackson-esque Dragon Age!) storyline, properly translated and professionally acted. The translation and acting alone bring this a cut above Gothic 3 (whose acting was nearly unbearable at times) and most other RPGs. Risen is somewhat unique in the way it brings RPG and 1st-person action elements together. Other games (ie. Oblivion) make the same effort, but don’t manage to bring player skill and character advancement together as effectively – particularly where combat is concerned. Opinions vary wildly on this point, but I think that Risen has the best real-time melee combat I’ve encountered in any computer game.
The graphics are a mixed bag. When they’re good it’s really just icing on the cake anyway – I wasn’t really playing this game for the graphics. But some of the outdoor vistas (sunsets, waterfalls, et al) are truly stunning. Indoor environments are a bit uglier despite imaginative design, mainly because the lighting and textures do not work so well here. Then there are the NPCs, which frankly look terrible and are lacking in variety. But again, writing and acting save the day.
Like most western RPGs, Risen gets off to a slow start. It’s foolish to try to judge an RPG based on the demo, except to determine whether it’s buggy or incompatible with your system, or just too ugly to bear. Once it takes off, character advancement and story progression are well-paced and really engaging. The game does become a bit repetetive in the final act, and the ending feels utterly disconnected from the rest of the game in a way that makes your previous character advancement somewhat moot, which I found disappointing. All in all though, this is a really “pure” example of a genre that is not well-represented these days. It’s very good on its own terms, and my own personal favorite in a long time.
So glad P.B. got this out in good form, and I hope fans will support the game so they’ll continue with the series!
Role-playing game that gets the important things right
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
This game’s world–settlements, forests, swamps, caves, and ruins–gets right everything that the “Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion”, “Fallout 3″, “Knights of the Old Republic”, “Fable”, “Mass Effect”, “Neverwinter Nights” and so many other role-playing games in recent memory get wrong.
Every nook and cranny in “Risen” is uniquely designed and fun to explore, while still fitting into the larger shapes and patterns of the world. The entire game is a SINGLE three dimensional space to explore and conquer, there are no loading screens that transport you into separate “cave” or “dungeon” or “building interior” universes.
Every townsperson or monster or treasure chest or lockpick combination was created and placed to test your skill, not to waste your time. The complex interlinking of characters and quests require that the player pay attention and make choices with incomplete knowledge and only her own moral compass as a guide, not simply to choose “good, evil, neutral” responses by rote in order to dress up their character the way they want.
This was the sort of RPG I imagined a 3D engine would make possible back when I was playing “Quest for Glory” or “Baldur’s Gate” and it has finally arrived. Do not miss it!
An excellent, involving game
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
I just finished Risen and knew I had to write a review about it. I didn’t quite expect it to be as good as it turned out to be. I was absorbed pretty much from the beginning. The story itself is interesting, though not necessarily what will keep you playing. The strongest aspects of the game are the various characters, relationships, factions, etc. that add an extra layer of depth to the game. It’s a pretty large game that definitely requires an investment of time and effort to play, but if you’re an RPG player, it’s worth it.
Probably my biggest complaint is that it is the type of game that requires (or at least is greatly aided by) some external research before beginning. It helps a great deal to know in advance which faction you want to join, how you will spend Learning Points, and which quests to do first so you don’t block them out later. It also helps to know little details like eating 10 apples or 10 eggs gives +1 to strength, but only for a maximum of +5. You will also need to find potion and item recipes at fan websites, because there’s really no other way to know how to do these things. In other words, it’s the kind of game that you could hurt yourself later on if you don’t know in advance how things work and what you want to do with your character. Perhaps it’s not as big of a deal as I may think it is (in other words, I’m sure the game is still perfectly playable, if not necessarily as easy), but I think most people will enjoy knowing ahead of time what needs to be done in certain situations. Just check out fan sites or the official forums for some of this information.
I never had any technical problems, just one bugged quest where an NPC didn’t show up where he needed to be. But after reloading a few times, it worked properly. Some people complain about the game being too dark (mainly on the Xbox), but I will say that at night it does get rather dark. But it was the same in Gothic 2, so I don’t think it’s a problem specific to this game.
Overall, I’d give the game 4.5 stars for its depth and for the way it completely sucked me into its story and world. Highly recommended for RPG players, especially (but not limited to) the hardcore type.
Edit: Installed and ran perfectly on Windows 7 64-bit.
I played the demo and I’m hooked!
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
I will keep it simple. If you liked oblivion, you would love this one. and if you didn’t like oblivion, something is really wrong with you and I suggest you visit a doctor soon.
Risen is Adventurous and mysterious. Its great to wander around and look for places to explore and people/monsters to kill. This game reminds me of Oblivion and that’s what keeping me excited about it.
The combat system is so crucial in video games as it can make or break the game. Fortunately, the combat system in Risen is similar to oblivion where you have to time your strike which makes it challenging and fun.
download the demo, play it, then buy the game
On Risen
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
The game was an interesting pass time. The graphics are pretty good but moving animation is mediocre except fighting moves which are not too bad. On another hand magic animation is uninspiring and somewhat boring. The story is interesting and allows variations and different paths to the end game. The crafting system is simple with just a handful of recipes. There is no customization of the main character. I think the re-play value for this game is very low, I already sold my copy after running through game once, if you can I recommend renting it instead of buying it.
Try before you buy
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
I want to make it clear this is a review of the Demo only.
I’m a long time role playing games fan and player. I was excited about Risen because the same group made Gothic 1 and 2 which were great games. But I was very disappointed after playing the demo. Many problems with the game. First, combat is boring and clunky. This is one of the most important areas in a rpg to get right since you will be doing combat for a vast amount of time in the game, in Risen the combat feels really clunky and hard to control and is boring on top of it. I can’t imagine playing through the whole game with this kind of combat engine and mechanics.
Second, the world feels compact and small. You barely move over a hill or some ground and you are already in the next important area of the game. For some reason they put everything close together on the island. Third, the world has blurry graphics and terrible lighting. All the textures are hard to make out and they have some kind of blurriness to them, the lighting is very dark and should have been much brighter. Everything looks washed out, murky and blurry. It’s not an attractive world to walk around in or explore to say the least.
Lastly, this game is basically an inferior remake of the Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 games. Most everything is recycled from those games, including the sound effects and monsters. Except the voice acting is bad and uninspired, where in the previous Gothics they had good voice work that was memorable. Also the combat in those Gothics was way better and more exciting. Even the graphics were better in that they were more pleasing to look at and create a superior atmosphere, even though they are outdated by several years, than in this game which had a poor artistic vision.
My advice is to try the demo before you buy the game. And then go ahead and buy Gothic 1 or Gothic 2 instead and play that if you haven’t already, they are much better games than this inferior remake.
Great RPG With Atmosphere!!
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
This game brings be back to the original Gothic game where the world was designed with care. The environments and atmosphere in the game are great. Thinks like flying insects, fog, lightning, and earthquakes are just some of the things that make this game so fun to play. While you’re on this volcanic island you will experience small tremors and quakes that will rock the world. While I was in a dungeon this caused dirt and pebbles to fall from the ceiling. The voice acting is also good and every line so far has been spoken dialogue which I think is a nice touch.
This game is challenging and will force you to make choices that will change what happens. You will start as a weakling that must learn to Block and attack only when an opportunity presents itself. There is no wild hack and slash here, because that my friend will put you 6 feet under. Fighting more than 1 creature will test your skills and force you to be strategic. I really like the way it locks you in on the enemy in front of you so you can dance around him while blocking and waiting for your perfect attack. Sometimes that perfect attack will still get interrupted when the creature does a surprise attack or dodge. This really makes the fights dynamic and fun. You will have to level up before tackling some creatures unless you like eating dirt.
I was not going to buy this game, but the demo changed my mind real quick because of the above. I hope others will buy this game to support the game developer on future games like this. They really went back to the old style Gothic 1&2 and not the mess that was Gothic 3 (Which wasn’t too bad after 1.6 patch).
DRM notice
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
This game uses TAGES(tm) with a 3 machine activation limit. All consumers should be aware of this before they buy a copy of the game.
Gothic 4 basically.
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
The story and world is different, but besides for that, this game is 100% Gothic. If you’ve played any of the Gothic games expect the same thing basically, which is good, but if you didn’t like the Gothic games then avoid this game also. For those unfamiliar with the series, expect an open world with a lot of exploration and items to find, quests to obtain and character customization. Great game and a lot more fun than I had with Dragon Age.
Not perfect, but worth your time
Rating:4 out of 5 stars
Risen comes from the same developers who brought us the highly regarded, but only successful in Europe, Gothic series. There are a lot of similarities between the technical aspects of the games, such as a primarily 3rd person perspective, detailed environments, an open area to explore, and the possibility of running into enemies that you aren’t ready to face.
The story starts off strong, with several factions for the player to choose to align with. And the factions are different, but perhaps too much. Each faction path is the only way to fully maximize a particular class or character build, something that isn’t clear at the point of the game where the choice has to be made (assuming the player has a choice as things may not develop that way depending on player actions). So some players may be upset to find they are limited in what they can do after choosing a faction.
For about 2/3 of the game things go pretty well. Unfortunately, the last 1/3 starts having issues. The story seems to be on rails to some degree and there are also pacing issues. Finally, the big “boss fight” at the end introduces an element that many players will find annoying and generally disregards whatever character development choices have been made as few of those skills come into play.
Still, the game is generally fun and the kind of RPG experience that I’d like to see more of. When it’s good, it’s very good, and most of the game is good.
(Note: PC version was played for this review.)
Hack and slash fun
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
I played the demo and I thought it was ok. It reminded me of dungeon seige with a bit of oblivion. Too much brainless hack and slash of animal like creatures. Animations were a bit poor too. Graphics were pretty, but a little generic. I personally was looking for something with more of a central driving plot, which this is not. If you like free roaming hack and slash, this is probably pretty good.
A must have
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
Buy this game, as it is one of the best RPGs ever created. Risen is a true successor to the Gothic series, and any PC gamer will enjoy it.
All the gameplay elements you enjoyed from Gothic have made their way into this game. I absolutely love this gameplay style, and have yet to meet another adult who doesn’t.
Oh, and it comes with absolutely no DRM. There is no online activation and no pesky Steam DRM to be found here. Only a simple DVD check (Tages, I believe). Support Piranha Bytes for making such a wonderful game, and also support Deep Silver for choosing not to put any DRM here.
My Thoughts
Rating:4 out of 5 stars
I am enjoying playing this game, but I did need to download a patch before it would work with my video cards. I am using two invida 7800gtx in SLI mode. It is still not as bright as it should be. If at night you are somewhere where there is no place to sleep it is to dark to play. Just wait for daylight. I would have given five stars if it was brighter.
Fun, great acting
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
This is my first role-playing game, so I have nothing to compare it to. I am usually more of a Tomb Raider/ Resident Evil type player, and I play them randomly. I have never become addicted to a game before like I am with this. Amazing graphics, fantastic voiceovers (I was initially drawn to this game as the Inquisitor is played by the excellent Andy Serkis (Gollum in Lord Of The Rings, King Kong, Little Dorrit), but noticed there are also great talents like John Rhys-Davis (Don Estaban) and Burn Gorman (several parts) who is in the excellent Torchwood. The acting makes a fantastic change from the terrible voiceovers I have experienced in other games- kudos to Piranha Bytes for using such talented actors.
Gameplay for me has been good, and so far not buggy.
Gothic – Remixed
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
RPGs aren’t about graphics, they are about Gameplay. Period.
After Gothic 3 I spat everytime I heard the name PB or JoWood. I got the demo – an hour later I was downloading the game.
Like others have said, if you liked (the working versions of) Gothic, you’re gonna love this. Open world, lots of quests that can be handled from different angles.
Fighting sucks (*at first*) once you train str – dmg output increases
Train up your weapon style and you get more moves, attack and dogdge fastrer.
People act like they’re supposed to wash up on shore, grab a seashell or whatever and start whippin ass…the whole ‘lev 1 no attack power, no combat skills, no armor’ goes over their head. I dont get that…just like anything you’re new at, you wont be very good. At first. It gets better, alot better.
Ya, combat is hard, but so is life! Get some skills and str and it gets easier, way easier.
Quests in this game present you with a problem and with a solution, how you handle the in-between is up to you.
Through stealth, combat, or the face to face approach there are many different ways to skin a cat in this game.
This game has a lot of little animations that you dont see game makers doing anymore:
Unearthing treasure chests, hitting water pipes, cooking, alchemy, lockpick mini game etc.
Like I said from line one: Dont go into a (good) RPG expecting high end graphics. Go play an FPS. With that said, I dont have a problem with the grpahics, in fact, I kinda like them. There’s a warm feeling about the environment the way the light filters through the foliage of the bandit camp or watching the sun set in Harbortown. IMO, the graphics are not super hi res nor are they terrible. For this genre, they work just fine (for me).
The game has a learning curve to it, but its mainly learning the basics (block, attack, hotkeys), and paying attention to what the NPCs are saying. For the most part, named NPCs are not speaking just to speak, so listen to the stuff they’re saying. There is no mini map, and no hand-holding on quests (no flashies pointing you directly to point B, no ‘walk 10 steps and get more exp’ here). You gotta hike and learn the environment.
There’s a lot of hack n slash, but not in a diablo sense. The majority of your exp comes from solving the problems from the different factions and the sidequests within each town.
The beauty of this game, imo, is the flexibility you have to accomplish tasks at hand.
Onto the Bad: I wanted to give this game a 5 but it’s almost an EXACT replica of Gothic1/2 so that’s a star off for originality. I said graphics dont count in an RPG but even Im not naive enough to not acknowledge the age of these graphics and its almost 2010 so another star off.
However, I still remember PBs last product (Gothic 3) and the total abortion that turned out to be and this is a total 180 from it in terms of stability and gameplay, so another star added.
BUGS
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
I’ve owned many of this companies games and usually love them. Sadly There continue to be the same bugs with gameplay and graphics Over and over again, and with overall plot/gameplay. Do not purchase, unless you have a lot of patience.
Great game!
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
I will keep this short and sweet. If you enjoyed Gothic 1 and Gothic 2, you will most likely love this game. It’s basically what Gothic 3 should have been (in my opinion). If you don’t know what Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 are… or you never played them, you should really play them first. This is not a first person shooter… it’s a first person RPG, and there’s a big difference. So make sure you know what you’re getting into before you buy. Also, you should buy the PC version only… it’s just not good on a console. That’s my 3 cents.
So good, so fine!
Rating:4 out of 5 stars
Risen is another great Gothic game, even though it’s not actually in the same world/story.
Risen Review
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
Similar to Gothic 2. Pretty bug free for initial release. Game a little small in scope and hours. Final battle poorly designed with normal interface almost unusable due to size and view. Overall, just an average game, but worth a sequel.
Great Adventure
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
Im a fan of the Gothic series, while this isn’t a sequel to the gothic story, it is a sequel in spirit.
The scenery is completely awe-inspiring, gameplay familiar to a gothic veteran, and isn’t buggy.
What more could you want in a RPG of this caliber?
5 stars
Oblivion, but 10X as buggy.
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
Risen comes off with the usual court ordered flare of western RPG’s. You are some nameless person dropped into a new place with no opinions, friends or skills of your own. It is then up to you as a player to figure all of this yourself.
In all, it does it well. I recall in Oblivion, I must have restarted my character about a dozen times to find that “perfect” look and class/race build. This game throws all of that away and leaves you with a complete blank as far as class and race goes as well as only one look. You pretty much look like Cole from Infamous or like the main guy from Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. Shaved heads are gaining popularity in the gaming industry.
From the start you are forced to make choices that will change the course of the game completely. Will you join the rebel bandits and work on your fighting/archery skills? Or join the monastery and work on your staff/magic skills? Or will you put off the choice by putzing around town for a while.
I have a feeling that most of the 5 star reviewers got about this far and called the game great. Sadly, I played the game for the necessary 5 hours to get to my requisite number of bugs that dropped the score a few notches.
At first, I was confused as to how a game gets released to PC before XBox, and now I know. PC games can be patched out of beta states, but XBox games, due to some not having hard drives, have to be of a higher functioning caliber than this. Most of my issues are small and map or journal related. But, I have now hit a complete game stopping, have to restart bug that is just plain bad planning.
Most bugs are possible to get around. Some guy not being where he is supposed to be. Multiple quests requiring you to turn in the same item that a major, game progressing quest needs. These can be fixed by working your way through a broken dialog sequence, or using the console cheat menu to create another item that the game took from you.
Others, not so nice. My current issue has to do with a combination of doing quests out of order and talking to the wrong people in the wrong order. Honestly, if the game must progress by linear means, then it shouldn’t give you the opportunity to ruin yourself like this.
On the plus side, the game does look good. It has more flexibility and entertainment than I got out of Oblivion and even with the game stopping bug, I will likely start a new game and try to avoid that pitfall.
A patch to make the journal more useful would be nice. Currently the thing has quest names, but many times objectives are obscure or non-existent. Several times I opened it to find help, and only found a transcript of a completely unrelated conversation. Not being able to walk around with the map open is a bad note as well. You can open a general (no quest pointer) as you walk, but the moment you click it closes. Being forced to open and close your window to see where you are going is painful. Having some map labels wouldn’t be asking too much either.
My apologies for the rant on the faults of this game, I honestly think there is good content in here somewhere it just needs some more polishing to bring it out. Conversations sound good and are written well (so much better than Two Worlds or Oblivion). Combat, difficulty and simple immersion is also better here than I have experienced in many releases as of late.
If you are feeling brave, grab this game for some good hack and level entertainment. I would suggest waiting for a patch though.
It was alright
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
I just finished playing Risen and found it a little dry. It is a pretty strait forward rpg without many bells and whistles. Having just finished Fallout 3 and waiting for Dragon Age to come out i wanted something to fill the time in between, Risen looked like a good way to fill the gap and thats what it did. I dont think i even would have finished it if i had something else i wanted to play. I dont know, its like i kept playing hoping it would pick up a little bit, then it was over. I had alot of fun for about the first 10 hours then it was just more of the same old same. There just wasnt that much variety. The beastiary was kind of small, maybe like 20 different things to kill total. Like 3 helmets, maybe 5 suits of armor, but there was an ok selection of swords, axes and staves, 5 shields or so, same for rings and amulets. You can craft swords,rings,amulets and potions, theres cooking both over a fire and in a caldron, and you can make scrolls any of the classes can use, and you can prospect for ore. But none of the items needed to do any of these things are hard to find, and i ended up with a TON of extra stuff when the game ended. Ok, now for some of the good. The graphics are very good. Lighting and shading are excellent, and flow very well with the time of day and weather. The island does have a volcano and when under ground there is some shaking and rumbling that causes dust to fall from the ceiling. The combat is not too much hack and slash, you need to use your shield, if you have one, parry, dodge, combos and tho i didnt play a magic class, there is a good variety of magic scrolls anyone can use. There are bows and crossbows. You can sneak and pickpocket, and there is lockpicking wich is extremely usefull. The voices of the npcs are pretty good i recognized John Rhys-Davies who was Gimli in Lord of the Rings (i remember him better as Sallah in Indiana Jones…” asps..very dangerous..you go first. ” Ok, so in short i gave this game 3 stars for, in my opinion, a lack of variety in items and beasts, and over all game play. This game doesnt suck, its just kind of blah. But if you like rpgs, and your in between games, this is a pretty good time filler.
Mediocre gameplay marred by bugs
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
Well first the good. The game play isn’t glaringly weak in any area and the dialogue is witty and entertaining. Magic, fighting, alchemy, etc are all easy to learn and will hold your attention for at least a short period. The problem is that Risen isn’t actually good at anything and the game play is extremely narrow in scope. Risen pretends to be open ended, letting you wander around freely. But pretty much all of the interesting quests are mandatory and, worse yet, have to be done in a certain order or the game screws up. This can be anything from dialogue getting messed up to breaking a quest that will completely ruin your game.
The fighting has a few nominal options, being able to block and sidestep, but most fights just devolve into left clicking a bunch of times. This wouldn’t be such a big problem except that it’s pretty much your only option. Nearly every conflict in the game is resolved by killing someone. Sneaking is useless and you never get meaningful dialogue options. In the first chapter you make one big decision, whether to join the Don or the Order, and that’s it. After that every single speaking encounter involves nothing more than working down the different topics and listening to the information you get. You could just blindly click through almost every dialogue and it wouldn’t have any impact on the actual game.
Pretty much every other aspect of the game is similarly limited. Being able to mine and forge weapons is kind of cool. Except that by the time you get around to doing it you’ve likely already found a better weapon. There are countless other things that make this game unremarkable: Most npc’s being completely stationary day or night, everyone runs the same speed, no options to customize your starting character, etc. I could go on but I think you get the point. I’m probably coming off more harsh than I really feel since this isn’t really a “bad” game but I had high hopes for it and was quite disappointed. If you’ve played through all of the classics and want a new rpg to play Risen will probably entertain you for at least a while, assuming you dodge the serious bugs (solving the Monstary killer quest too early seems to be the most common). Just don’t get your hopes up too much.
Risen almost rises the bar for Piranha Bytes’ Gothic games
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
Risen is moderately entertaining but not worth full retail price. It is definitely a “Gothic” clone from story structure to gameplay: three camps (bandits, warriors and mages) decide your future, though all roads lead to the same ending–the inevitable boss monster that unlike other games in the Gothic series (I own and have played Gothic I, II and III to death!) is not really fun or rewarding to kill. (*Spoiler alert!* I gave up trying to jump from spaces that dissolve under you while reflecting power blasts with Titan armor and never finished off the Fire Titan and the game.) All four chapters seem set on hard–and I played as an easy beginner, preferring the gritty adventure and intriguing story line to button crunching and regularly restarting from my last save. There are optional ways to accomplish the same tasks, like sneaking or spell-casting, though hacking and slashing is part of the game. You need a high frustration tolerance for being killed readily and often if you are to be the hero this epic world needs. The music is driving, sometimes maddening and pulse pounding to where you want to turn down your speakers just to give yourself a break, though it manages to keep you playing into the late hours of the night. Typical of all the Gothic games, there is no character development per se, just better weapons, armor and spells. Voicing is interesting, as characters have an English accent, though I was disappointed to find both the “f” word and God’s name used as casual conversational exclamation points. For occasional rough language and ongoing violence (almost everything is out to kill you!) I wouldn’t pass along this RPG to anyone under 18.
NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS OBLIVION
Rating:3 out of 5 stars
I will start out by giving this game 5 stars for being the most Interesting one out right now.Deduct 1 for outdated Graphics( I did not buy a high end game machine for lousy Graphics )I Played OBLIVION on a low end game PC with an XP OS and the graphics were the best I have ever seen and the Game play was much superior to this one.So don’t even try to compair this to Oblivion.This game could not even carry Oblivions Jocky Strap!!!I knocked off another star for the stuped fighting technique.Why Not just let the players fight the way they want to.I started to knock another star because the game was taunted as being a sexual game that did not follow through on the promise but decided that would be in bad taste.